Punk It Loud! Why Social Media Needs More Punk



Make some noiseOkay, confession time. I was never a “punk”. Nobody who knew me as a teenager would ever call me that.

Now granted, in high school in the mid 80′s I did love punk music (and still do).

I partied and hung out with a bunch of bona fide punks, and I even got pretty good at slam dancing.

But I was a coward, way too straight-laced to get a weird haircut, body piercings, or any of the superficial paraphernalia that defined punk at the time.

So why am I here in my 40′s, with a wife, a house, and three kids writing for a blog called Punk Views on Social Media?

I’m here because a couple of strong voices in the space - Geoff Livingston and Richard Laermer - made the connection and got me excited about the idea. I’m here because I’ve been inspired by a group of like-minded digital punks who refuse to accept the status quo (because who the fuck speaks Latin anyway?).

And as strange as it sounds, I’m here because as I get older, I’m becoming more punk all the time. In my head. And because I believe social media needs a few loud, messy guitar riffs right now.

5 reasons social media needs more punk

  1. Punk doesn’t take itself too seriously. What most people didn’t get about punk was that it was a joke. I don’t mean that it wasn’t important. I mean that at its core, punk was parody, a joke played on the rest of the world. You all dress one way? Fine, we’ll do the opposite. You value top-forty disco? Fine, how about this aural assault? Like the jester at the banquet, the punk is the one who sees through the poses and the pomp, and sees where to poke the holes. On social media, I’m finding the most valuable people are those who take their ideas seriously, but not themselves.
  2. Punk is about playing (loud). The punk attitude is about playing – playing a part, playing with ideas and roles, and playing out different possibilities. Taking them apart. Turning them inside out. Cranking up the volume. This constant state of play is what allows people with a punk attitude to keep evolving, changing, growing new brain cells. And in social media, it’s the attitude that drives creative connections and brilliant moments of serendipity. It’s also why nobody can ever script or template success in social media (beware the “proprietary systems”). You’ve just got to get in there and play it out.
  3. Punk says anybody can do it. Punk was the ultimate DIY movement. You didn’t need to be a classically trained musician to play punk, and you didn’t get your clothes – or your ideas – from Woolco. This was the ethic that made punk like early social media: chaotic, confusing, but ultimately a flat playing field where anyone could play. That’s why I feel like I have a right to put my content alongside anyone else’s. Because, actually, I do. Not because I’m special, but because anybody can. As Martin Luther King Jr. never (ever) said: “Don’t judge me by the colour of my Klout score, but by the character of my content.”
  4. Punk sneers at popularity. Sorry popular kids. Punks are iconoclasts by definition. We learned in high school that popularity doesn’t equal substance. We learned not to idolize airheaded jocks and bitchy prom queens just because we were expected to.  So in social media, the more popular you are, the higher your follower count, blog ranking, or Klout score, the more the punks will challenge and dissect the work you do. Fair is fair, so we won’t disrespect you as people. But we will demand more of you. To question your ideas and hold you accountable for the very influence you seek.
  5. Punk begs to differ. The idea of punk is to try out alternatives. To put a little twist on normal and see it from the other side. I named my own humble blog (warning: link-pimpage ahead) Beg to Differ because I’m obsessed with difference – and from a marketing and branding standpoint, differentiation. How do people and products stand out and get noticed?  And that’s really the point of this exercise too. The key question is: how do we keep social media fresh, democratic, and open to anyone with real value to share?

There you have it. I don’t care if you think “punk” is a dorky concept. I don’t even care if you think all these self-proclaimed punks are full of shit. Go ahead and say so in the comments below. Loudly.

But whatever happens, I’m going to keep trying to convince you that there’s value in finding the outliers, celebrating the oddballs and  iconoclasts, and playing the jester at the banquet.

So how about you, punk? How are you going to stand out from the crowd?

image: Jeff the Trojan


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About the author: Dennis Van Staalduinen  (1 Posts)

Dennis Van Staalduinen is a brand storyteller and plain-language junkie from Ottawa, Canada. He once was a professional actor, traveled the world as a keynote speaker, launched a dotcom start-up as a vice president of marketing, and named a Kentucky Fried Chicken sandwich. But not all at the same time. These days he advises executives through his company Brandvelope Consulting and changes poopy diapers in his spare time.


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Steve Birkett 66 pts

Fair enough, I'll hop on board with the last 4 points (that's 80% conformity on my part....not punk at all!). But punk definitely took itself VERY seriously as it gained traction. Bona fide punk legends were vilified almost as quickly as they'd risen, often for miniscule contradictions in what a dedicated core of self-appointed purists deemed 'not punk'. Perhaps the early US punk acts offered a bit more fun, but there was little joking on the subject matter from the likes of Strummer or Godard in the early days, or Rollins and Mackaye later on in the US as hardcore punk came about.That said, John Lydon did start to shill for ridiculous butter commercials not so long ago, so obviously he doesn't take himself seriously in the slightest. Or he just really loves easily spreadable butter products. Any road up, I'm fully aware of the irony involved in arguing for the seriousness of a subject on a post making the point that we shouldn't take this all quite so seriously, so I'll shut my punk mouth. Loudly, of course. ;-)

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DenVan 40 pts

Steve Birkett Actually I was aware of the contradiction when I made that my point #1. Yeah, capital P punk did tend to wank about itself a bit didn't it? Sadly the parody wasn't always intentional.And I guess it's me projecting my preference for small p punk - e.g. Ramones - attitude. The Pistols had it tearing up God Save the Queen, The Pogues were all about it. Early Elvis Costello Radio Radio on Saturday Night Live, or a personal fave - the Boomtown Rats Tonic for the Troops from '78 (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS_3OvEV4k&feature=related) I've probably just disqualified from talking about "Punk" to the purists, But to me the best stuff inhabited the edge of popularity - just close enough to matter. Just far away enough to still tear it up.

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Steve Birkett 66 pts

DenVan The purists were most likely the ones gobbing on the bands they purported to love/defend so much. Being far away from them is probably the best place. Thanks for the vid, as well.

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Mark Longbottom 54 pts

Always hard to define the moment such as a musical movement happening from start to end it probably ended with the release of the album Never Mind the Bollocks 77, even then some say it was really over in 76. With the beginning being somewhere in NYC or Detroit in the 1960' with Velvet Undergound, The Stooges or was it more to do with Richard Hell, The Ramones in the early 70's.You know what, it's none of the above it;'s simply people like my dad who was an everyday working bricklayer wo suggested I think for myself, produce for myself and be me. The rest can inspire and influence but as to when and where you could say Marcel Duchamp, then again you cold go earlier with Hugo Ball.It all goes on, the main point of the Punk ethos would not be how serious or not it would be how important it was to be independent and to support independence in others.So similar to online activity sharing and caring, at that point a hippy disclaimer can be used. Make up your own rules form there on in :)

Daryl_Woods 12 pts

Steve Birkett Punk was an erection, hard and throbbing. It went soft when the bands learned how to play their instruments. The Clash, Siouxsie, they all started making real music. Sad to hear that butter story about Lydon. He is/was one of my heroes. I named my company after his band. Figured he or the band would die quickly. Couldn't believe the pics of him smiling and socializing in Toronto at the film festival. Limp.

Mark Longbottom 54 pts

Daryl_WoodsSteve Birkett careful on the butter, it becomes apparent for the need to do something with Public Image Limited - for me reunions and tours so far on seem to be money not art. Lydon is a character and a lot more intellignet than many give credit for a panto dame but deeply thougt tfull when younger.

ErikOndrus 6 pts

I like where this is going. In fact I've been waiting for something like this. Punk on, Indeed! And now, too must change poopy diapers.

DenVan 40 pts

ErikOndrus See? All that experience with safety pins comes in handy! (Or self-fastening strips. Metaphor. Breaking. Down....)

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twitfools 5 pts

We couldn't agree more. Great post!

Tinu 364 pts

Did anyone say "because the status is not... quo" yet? Because that's my line, dammit. Good reads.

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Daryl_Woods 12 pts

Punk is part of your soul. If you got it, you'll never forget it. It's a moral tattoo that constantly forces you question everything and respect no convention. Sure, we've lost the safety pins, leathers and crazy hair. We've got spouses, kids and mortgages. But the fire still burns. I'm encouraged to see the names of so many friends and people I admire in the article and comments. You've struck a chord - or maybe three. Play it loud and out of tune.

DenVan 40 pts

Daryl_Woods Whoa slow down dude. Three chords? That's almost Jazz! Well said. As painful as it sounds, I'm much more comfortable wearing my safety pins on the inside.

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danieleagee 94 pts

Don't worry DenVan . That could be considered punk in Canada right? Daryl_Woods

Daryl_Woods 12 pts

We set the standard as low as possible. The Brits were always around to kick the posers in bollocks.

Mark Longbottom 54 pts

Perfect - takes me back to school and then to my fine art degree where a three piece suit and tie was somethimes better than wearing what art students should wear. Every which way we should question the norm and make peopel question themselves, no easy ride. interaction is far more interesting than acceptance. It can be quiet, can be thought provoking but it shouldn't be accepting.

DenVan 40 pts

Mark Longbottom Imma quote you here: "interaction is far more interesting than acceptance". YES! Don't do shit because that's the "proper" way to do it. Do it because it creates the right kind of waves, opens a constructive conversation, surprises people into asking new questions.

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Mark Longbottom 54 pts

DenVan absolutely and then it becomes a natural dialogue nothing new seems some people forgot how to do it for real in buinsess ;)

halffiction 47 pts

I have to disagree with your own self-assessment of your punkness - you sound a lot more punk than anyone with crazy hair, piercings, tattoos and bondage pants! Back in the day I also did not dress the part, save for a favorite band's t-shirt. I found the fashion aspect of it to be too superficial. Instead, I made fanzines and booked shows.

DenVan 40 pts

halffiction Punk is as punk does? I'll buy that.

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KrisColvin 13 pts

I totally get what you're saying. I was a little heathen in high school, so the vanilla world of everyone doing the same thing all the time does not appeal to me at all. Of course sometimes, when doing any type of marketing it is going to repeat from one client to another but I try to find a way to do something unique, something fun, something out of the mundane ordinary... and the main reason is because it doesn't appeal to *me* otherwise. Great reminder of why to avoid being boring. :-)

DenVan 40 pts

KrisColvin Great thought Kristi. I'm with you on doing it differently because you need to keep yourself interested. I actually couldn't do it any other way myself. Punk is just one name for the way I'm wired - and incidentally I chose the most complimentary label. You don't want to hear the others.

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KyleJudkins 13 pts

I love that you called out punk a little bit with your comment "superficial paraphernalia that defined punk at the time." I'm a fan of Danny, but I was worried this blog might take itself too seriously. The posts so far have been great and not only looking at different view points, but also putting a mirror up to the idea of punk as well.

Rhysorwin 41 pts

KyleJudkins I had exactly the same concerns

DenVan 40 pts

KyleJudkins The external trappings of Punk were never actually very ppunk were they? And I guess the same goes for any revolutionary movement - whether Occupy <fill in the blank> , the Tea Party, or the French revolution, as soon as a movement gains an internal orthodoxy and pecking order it loses its edge. That's why I like punk as a *verb* rather than a noun.

I punk, you punk, nous nous punkons etc. Or in English: Punk on!

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Tinu 364 pts

Once the fringe has a uniform voice, it's not fringe any more. DenVan KyleJudkins

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Rhysorwin 41 pts

I'm so glad that you wrote this post. I was beginning to wonder if this website was just trying to capitalise on a controversial viewpoint. But this has some real well thought out reasoning behind it and I think that it will be bookmarked to remind me not to follow the crowd.

I love trying to push the boundaries of clients comfort zone but it never seems to go too well. A little knowledge paired with a lot of power leads to uninformed and poor decision making and that is what seems to happen with most businesses who want to (or feel like they should) enter the social media minefield.

DannyBrown 2727 pts moderator

Rhysorwin Nah, we'll leave the capitalizing on controversy to the likes of TechCrunch. We're just here to have fun and play music. Really loud. :)

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DenVan 40 pts

DannyBrownRhysorwin Good point. Controversy for the sake of controversy isn't particularly different, interesting, or worthwhile. Particularly if it doesn't make a point of laughing at its own foibles as well. I'm from the John Stewart school of punk.

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Rhysorwin 41 pts

DenVanDannyBrown Great to hear! I am liking this site more and more as the posts start to flow. Keep it up, you are setting a very high bar not just for yourselves but for everyone else.

DenVan 40 pts

RhysorwinDannyBrown Eeep. Well now that you put it THAT way...

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DenVan
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TheStacey Thanks! How's stuff?

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DenVan stuff is good, busy, fun, excitingish, slow in some places...but good. You too?

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socialsteve (Confession - I was a punk) no need to confess do read the blog tho http://t.co/bcxNmFJx from dannybrown

tacanderson
tacanderson

maddiegrant I find it interesting (and not coincidental) that the PVoSM blog is all Gen X from what I can tell ;)

maddiegrant
maddiegrant

tacanderson haha actually we have some boomers and millenials!! Just wait.

tacanderson
tacanderson

maddiegrant DenVan I figured there'd be others. But yes, punk was a pretty defining Gen X genre.

Tinu
Tinu

tacanderson How old do you have to be to be Gen X again? I'm 39, but I think we have a couple of folks in their 20s.

Daryl_Woods
Daryl_Woods

KrisColvin A lot friends at PunkViews.

DenVan
DenVan

belllindsay Thanks for spreading the PunkViews revolution. Cc: dannybrown

belllindsay
belllindsay

DenVan Happy 2. Trust me. It's wayyy worse when you *were* a punk, and r now all married/mortgaged. cc michaelocc PunkViews dannybrown

DenVan
DenVan

belllindsay Ha! Good point. I never had any "street cred" to lose.

belllindsay
belllindsay

DenVan Sigh. ;)

michaelocc
michaelocc

belllindsay that is a splendid, splendid idea (the punk post)

belllindsay
belllindsay

michaelocc Yeah. Wish *I* had written it. lol

michaelocc
michaelocc

belllindsay heh. My feelings precisely.

belllindsay
belllindsay

michaelocc Ha! Thanks!! :/

DenVan
DenVan

belllindsay Oh, but you can. Haven't you heard of copy and paste? ;c{)}

belllindsay
belllindsay

DenVan Lol! For shame! #ethicalblogging