Celebrity, Schmelebrity – The Facts Don’t Lie



Miss Understood looking good, as alwaysThe issue of defining influence has been the hottest of hot potatoes over the last few months in the social media world.  The debates have most obviously raged over the value of services like Klout (which, btw, risks getting investigated by the FTC), but, you’ll be breathing a sigh of relief to read, this post is not about Klout.

This post is about a new report by Geoff Livingston and Henry T Dunbar  on The Effectiveness of Celebrity Spokespeople in Social Fundraisers, just announced by Zoetica Media and PayPal Nonprofit, who sponsored the research, which was conducted on case studies of nonprofits in the Paypal network.

Of course, one would assume that celebrities with bazillions of followers on social media sites would have more influence over the purchasing (or donating) power of their followers than people with normal numbers of followers. Apparently, celebrity tweet brokering is big business.

Now there have been plenty of unscientific experiments debunking the power of a celebrity tweet, as well as this famous slightly more learned example by Nieman Journalism Labs.

But you might be surprised to learn that there is a ton of actual research on the topic of online influence – such as (hat tip to Lisa Thorell for digging these up):

- This Stanford paper on Modeling Information Diffusion in Implicit Networks in which a data set of 500 million tweets and 170 million news media articles was tested to determine that, among other things,”users with the most followers are not the most influential in propagating hashtags”. Propagating hashtags? Surely that’s easier to influence people to do than buying a book or donating to a cause… celebrities can’t even do that?

Or how about…

- This 2007 paper, Influentials, Networks, and Public Opinion Formation by Duncan Watts, who, according to Wikipedia, is a “Principal Research Scientist at Yahoo! Research where he directs the Human Social Dynamics Group”. Whoa. Here below are the crib notes for those of us (like me, I confess) who no longer know how to read stuff like this…

This new report just adds more research to the pile. Listen to this:

“Nonprofits have turned to their celebrity partners with fans and followers in the millions to raise money. The numbers can be astounding, both positively and negatively. Save the Children just ran a celebrity campaign on social media with the likes of Lady Gaga and Justin Bieber that raised $1000,000 in the first day. However, deeper analysis showed the fundraiser achieved $0.0001 per celebrity follower.”

The lesson from the report (which echoes the research conclusions mentioned earlier) is that “lesser-known, but better-engaged, personalities produced stronger results for nonprofits.” I’ll lift some examples from Geoff Livingston’s post introducing the report:

  • “A campaign on Facebook’s Causes to raise money for a new children’s hospital. In it, a 9-year-old cancer patient with virtually no online presence generated more donations than any other individual, including television star Ashton Kutcher.
  • A DonorsChoose.org fundraising competition among bloggers —- including TechCrunch’s Michael Arrington and All Things D’s Kara Swisher —- was dominated by a blogger offering to parade around in a tomato suit.
  • The launch competition of Kevin Bacon’s Six Degrees social giving website: Despite recruiting more than 60 celebrities to create “charity badges” on the site —- including Nicole Kidman and Ashley Judd -— the top fundraiser was a woman who blogs about scrapbooking and has an autistic son.”

Anyway. I’ll let you read the report and dig into the details:

Effectiveness of Celebrity Spokespeople in Social Fundraisers

So. Pretty interesting, right?  And not surprising… Why?

The conclusion is what a lot of us already know based on our real-world knowledge as practitioners of social media for business – that the people with the most online influence are those who have built their followings by being truly and honestly engaged with them, who are very active in social media, and who have a personal reason to care about your cause or brand or product. You might even be dismissing some of them as slacktivists. (Lesson: Don’t!!)

So the next time someone in your PR department is pushing that celebrity campaign – throw some good old (and new) research at them and help them find the right person for the job – who may not be obvious at first.

And honestly, not everyone likes celebrities anyway.

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About the author: Maddie Grant  (2 Posts)

Maddie Grant is the author of Humanize: How People-Centric Organizations Succeed in a Social World and Open Community. She helps associations and nonprofits build community on the social web through her SocialFish consulting practice and is lead editor for SocialFishing, a top-ranked social media blog for the association industry.


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Roger_Tee 17 pts

The compelling thing about this for me is how it is another indication that as an internet-connected community we are starting to see the emergence of a richer, more adaptable and more intelligent "public opinion" that is more and more immune all the time to manipulation by an "elite few".

Celebrity influence dropping off is only one aspect of this. This is also happening with elite politicians and the wealthy elite becoming less effective at consistently influencing the pubic opinion of the middle classes everywhere. (Arab Spring, Occupy WallStreet, etc.)

The traditional influence of the elite is losing ground because it now has to overome the growing percentage of time each day we all are spending "listening" to each other directly via our Facebook friends, our self-filtered Twitter feeds and and other crowd-sourced media such as blogs and blog comments. We still are consuming the highly homogenized and/or highly filtered feeds from 20th century style news-media but now we are forming our voting opinions only when we test our thinking about those topics with our now more trustworthy social networks.

Roger_Tee 17 pts

maddiegrant Thx Madie. Read my full blog post on this at http://over40innovator.blogspot.com/2011/11/public-opinion-is-becoming-sentient.html

maddiegrant 64 pts

Roger_Tee That is a GREAT post. Tweeted!

HowieSPM 2326 pts

We forget that only 1-3% of your following will see a tweet if you are lucky. Only 0.01% to 0.05% engage with brands on their pages per post. For music and celeb brand pages they get a whopping 0.1% on a good day. It is the platform that is the problem as much as anything.

Once again Social Media is about people connecting with people. Brands and Marketing not so much. In fact I bet it ranks last if you ask 'Why do use you social media'.

Great post going to read the report now. That geoffliving is one smart dude

maddiegrant 64 pts

HowieSPMgeoffliving Yes he is!!

ginidietrich 5316 pts

One of the first real conversations I had with Geoff, he talked about his grocery store test. If you can get through the grocery store without anyone recognizing you, you're not a celebrity. I think this study proves that theory. That said, there are plenty of online influencers who can help a brand increase their sales, if the relationship (and I stress relationship) is approached correctly.

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Tinu 364 pts

HA - love the grocery store test. :) If you're famous on the internet, you're not famous at all. ginidietrich

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Chris_Eh_Young 34 pts

ginidietrich I'm screwed. I tend to get recognized everywhere I go for some reason and I am far from a celebrity. I once got recognized and called by my Twitter name at an apple orchard 50 miles from my town. That kind of freaked me out.

Tinu 364 pts

Oh my Gosh it's Chris Young! Sign my electrons! Chris_Eh_Young ginidietrich sorry man. Too easy.

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Chris_Eh_Young 34 pts

Tinuginidietrich Last week I was on my way home from a speaking event and I had my name called out in a pharmacy at midnight. What are the odds?

adamtoporek 445 pts

ginidietrich Okay, I would differ with the grocery test a bit. I think there are different levels of fame and different kinds of celebrity. Jack Welch does not have the same kind of celebrity that Tom Hanks does, but it's hard to say he's not one.

One of my favorite quotes about celebrity (and to my point) is from Fran Lebowitz: "“The best fame is a writer's fame. It's enough to get a table at a good restaurant, but not enough to get you interrupted when you eat.”" :)

maddiegrant 64 pts

adamtoporekginidietrich love it!!

TheJackB 1512 pts

ginidietrich I meant to respond to this the other day. You might be surprised how many celebrities you don't recognize or aren't sure if you do. Part of the "fun" of living in LA is that I do run across them.

You haven't lived until you lined up at Whole Foods behind John Tesh and Mr. T. No exaggeration, I really did wait in line behind them- sort of an odd couple.

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AnneWeiskopf 41 pts

Good morning! What a great post maddiegrant and a excellent white paper geoffliving . (And Geoff I have always had a deep suspicion that you were influenced by Snooki #NuffSaid.) I was very lucky to have spent the last two days at #SNCR and learned a ton (can't wait to share it with you guys.) Anyway - two concepts that I see connected to much of what is going on in the social media space were reinforced: put the "social" first - not media (thank you Maddie and fgossieaux (oh - and you two have to meet!) and second - there are no shortcuts - you have to do the work to establish relationships that we lead eventually lead to reciprocity, as described by at tonia_ries . Thank you for a great start to my weekend.

Tinu 364 pts

Of course he's influenced by Snooki. Remember that dress he wore for charity? What's #SNCR for those of us in the cheap seats, too lazy to Google stuff? AnneWeiskopf maddiegrant geoffliving fgossieaux tonia_ries

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AnneWeiskopf 41 pts

Tinumaddiegrantgeofflivingfgossieauxtonia_ries Sorry - was running late to a pedicure! http://sncr.org/ - Society for New Communications Research...

Tinu 364 pts

Very cool of you to keep me from Googling on my mobile. hate that. :) Thanks! AnneWeiskopf maddiegrant geoffliving fgossieaux tonia_ries

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tonia_ries 117 pts

The best way to get spokespeople to promote your products? Celebrate your best customers and fans, and empower them to share the word with their friends.

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geoffliving 282 pts

tonia_ries Heh, the Five Guys/Zappos way.

tonia_ries 117 pts

geoffliving see this one? http://youtu.be/pqHWAE8GDEk?t=1m51s KLM monitored Twitter for people saying they were flying on KLM that day, and then found them at the airport with a little surprise gift to thank them. Gifts were personalized based on their Twitter profile. And we're talking treating *regular* customers like celebrities, not picking them based on their high-Klout score.

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geoffliving 282 pts

No steak for you, tonia_ries !

Tinu 364 pts

Shut up that is awesome. My mother hates KLM deeply though, from years of international travel. In fact, a lot of Africans I know avoid them as much as they can, even it it'll cost more. tonia_ries geoffliving

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halffiction 47 pts

The idea of using celebrities for anything has become a bit stale - I believe brands started to see the effectiveness of declining and they're becoming more rare. http://urbanchoreography.net/2011/02/25/rise-of-the-bloggers-death-of-the-celebrity-endorsement/ There's also the scandal risk, the latest being Nikon quickly reshooting commercials with Ashton Kutcher because of his alleged cheating. Nowadays people have more access to celebrities through a number of channels, making them more numb to their endorsements and people tend to relate to people who are more at their own level. Personally, a celebrity saying "hey you should donate $5 to this" falls on deaf ears because my response is "Why don't you just donate a million and call it a day?" They have no skin in the game other than improving their image. When Padma from Top Chef spoke at the Moth, she wanted people to donate and said that everyone who donated $20 and wrote "Padma said to say 'basil'" she promised she would personally match the donation. That got me to donate.

Tinu 364 pts

love that -> "Why don't you just donate a million and call it a day?" halffiction

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Tinu 364 pts

I love that this research supports the things we already know in our guts. I'm tentative about the research that abounds on online influence, although there's data dating back to 1993 on the topic, I still trust research on psychology more. Which is sad because some of that is decidedly flawed!To get back to this article though - the real influencers are the real people. Snooki is great for a laugh, don't get me wrong, and I might buy some liquor she endorsed as long as it didn't imply that it would make college-aged women easier to catch and drug. But she's popular. Popularity has its own brand of influence but it's not REAL influence. It's pop influence like popular music and popular culture - fun for the moment but shallow and fleeting in the grand scheme of things.I'm sad that while something like Klout's privacy issues and flaws gets attention, this study didn't get equal time except among people who are specifically looking in this direction. Plan on lending more than one blog post to this wonderful research and what it really means to us as individuals - power - REAL power, to the people.

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halffiction 47 pts

Tinu I've always wondered how people get these drugs to drug women with. I mean, I know drug dealing isn't the most honorable profession, but if I were one and someone came to me and said "So uh...yeah I need a bag of weed...some heroin and...uh...do you have that uh...date rape drug?" I certainly wouldn't sell it.

Tinu 364 pts

word that. halffiction

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geoffliving 282 pts

Tinu I buy Abercrombie & Fitch because of Snooki. Really, I do.

DenVan 40 pts

geofflivingTinu Mmmmm. Snooki, Oh wait, sorry. I thought you said "Nookie". Although on second thought, I've never gotten nookie from Abercrombie and Fitch either....

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hellopanelo thanks for the tweet!

matthixson
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meganstrand are you at blogworld?

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matthixson I was...just leaving now. Just watched your latest video...sounds like you're honing that message! ;)

matthixson
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meganstrand I will have to run it by you soon. Maybe I can come up to Vancouver to have lunch one day for your insights :)

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matthixson Wow! Must be a big shift...would love to do lunch and hear about it! Shoot me a day that works. :)

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tinu thank you!

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